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| Sebi | !LOG | 00:11 |
| MrCosmicNachos | .ss | 00:12 |
| Zeke | gg yall | 00:13 |
| lil_fox05 | gg | 00:22 |
| DuhDoesNothing | .ss | 00:27 |
| highspeed | The • | .SS | 00:29 |
| Zeke | lol heavy good shit again bro | 00:31 |
| pun | !logs | 00:33 |
| Zeke | hell of a fun fight | 00:35 |
| highspeed | The • | .ss | 01:29 |
| Curious borge the soviet anime | .ss | 01:37 |
| Curious borge the soviet anime | .ss | 01:42 |
| Zeke | lol fr tho bro had a fun time goin against you | 03:37 |
| Zeke | damn good heavy gameplay | 03:42 |
| MrCosmicNachos | It was really fun | 04:00 |
| Zeke | fr | 04:05 |
| MrCosmicNachos | Yo, this is unrelated, but have you heard of heavyshark? | 04:13 |
| Zeke | no i havent lol | 04:21 |
| MrCosmicNachos | Not gonna be relevant this season, but it was a Lakeside teck | 04:30 |
| pun | ni ammo | 04:34 |
| pun | no ammo | 04:40 |
| Zeke | oh with the bathouse? | 04:43 |
| MrCosmicNachos | Yeah | 04:48 |
| pun | only roket | 04:49 |
| MrCosmicNachos | Swim up bind | 04:54 |
| Zeke | lol theres some other weird spots | 04:58 |
| Zeke | the wall you can shoot straight through all the gaps | 05:11 |
| Zeke | makes insane cover | 05:16 |
| MrCosmicNachos | Yeah, it does | 05:18 |
| Zeke | even the tiny gaps | 05:21 |
| MrCosmicNachos | Tomislav kinda necessary on that one tho | 05:26 |
| MrCosmicNachos | Really wish heavy had other comp usable taunts | 05:43 |
| Zeke | honestly id say BB is solid if your team can hold and not get pushed back | 05:56 |
| MrCosmicNachos | We don't like the bathhouse hold | 06:13 |
| Zeke | i like it because its the safest place for heavy | 06:28 |
| Zeke | also, brass beast on product is insanely good on product if you hold concrete | 07:03 |
| MrCosmicNachos | That would be interesting | 07:22 |
| MrCosmicNachos | Thanks for the info, I'll try that out | 07:31 |
| Zeke | especially with dalokohs for more tanking or a shotgun to have more mobility | 07:38 |
| MrCosmicNachos | I sling too many sandviches to give it up | 07:50 |
| MrCosmicNachos | 90k healing | 08:04 |
| MrCosmicNachos | or close to | 08:12 |
| Zeke | lmao sandvich is my go to for stock, tomi, sometimes huo long and BB | 08:12 |
| MrCosmicNachos | Huo long? | 08:21 |
| Zeke | but never natascha, dalokohs is INSANE for natascha | 08:27 |
| Zeke | havent used HLH on comp yet, but its goated for small areas | 08:45 |
| Zeke | or working with a pyro | 08:51 |
| pun | im goat | 08:55 |
| MrCosmicNachos | Highlander pyro doesn't really get to combo with heavy all that much | 09:06 |
| Zeke | i mean if the combo is sticking together, it just works sometimes | 09:26 |
| pun | me airblast man | 09:30 |
| MrCosmicNachos | Sometimes | 09:35 |
| Zeke | especially if yall plan it beforehand | 09:38 |
| MrCosmicNachos | HLH just doesn't seem viable, especially since it has a penalty otherwise | 09:52 |
| MrCosmicNachos | hell yeah, air strike | 10:01 |
| Zeke | HLH's downside forces you to be more aggresive overall | 10:12 |
| MrCosmicNachos | I'm already crazy aggro | 10:26 |
| Zeke | and the 10% dmg penalty would be great if it was removed, but on any class other than heavy it doesnt matter | 10:44 |
| pun | im bad at pyro but goat at Sekiro (lie im bad at both) | 10:49 |
| MrCosmicNachos | Heavy V Heavy makes it show | 10:57 |
| MrCosmicNachos | Which we took on plenty of times tonight lol | 11:07 |
| Zeke | trust me on this tho, natascha with dalokohs is insanely good to just be tank without being too slow | 11:15 |
| MrCosmicNachos | Doesn't it also have a dmg penalty | 11:26 |
| MrCosmicNachos | ? | 11:28 |
| Zeke | 20%, but slowdown on hit makes it a bit easier to track lol | 11:41 |
| MrCosmicNachos | 25 | 11:44 |
| Zeke | y | 11:47 |
| Zeke | ah it is 25 | 12:00 |
| MrCosmicNachos | I hate the slow rev though | 12:18 |
| Zeke | tbh you get used to it | 12:28 |
| MrCosmicNachos | I know, I prefer Stock | 12:35 |
| Zeke | my go to minigun overall is stock | 12:38 |
| MrCosmicNachos | Have an aussie of both | 12:43 |
| Zeke | lol i got a spelled stock one, and a normal aussie tomi | 12:55 |
| MrCosmicNachos | Nice | 13:02 |
| Zeke | lol im of the mindset that heavy has no bad options outside of melee fighting stuff | 13:34 |
| MrCosmicNachos | I mean, pubbing with holiday punch is really fun | 13:52 |
| MrCosmicNachos | Stuffing ubers with it | 14:00 |
| Zeke | the only bad options are the steak sandvich, eviction notice, and warriors spirit | 14:01 |
| MrCosmicNachos | KGB would be interesting in comp | 14:24 |
| Zeke | holiday punch, while i dont use it that much, gotta admit it is goofy as hell but also great | 14:25 |
| Zeke | KGB with shotgun | 14:32 |
| MrCosmicNachos | I had a strange one, sold it to get an aussie | 14:42 |
| MrCosmicNachos | Also got strange FoS | 14:57 |
| Zeke | and any shotgun goes great with BB and sometimes huo long if not enough ammo sources | 14:58 |
| Zeke | same lmao | 15:02 |
| MrCosmicNachos | I got a pro KS from our TL lmao | 15:12 |
| MrCosmicNachos | We did a tour together and this is what he got | 15:20 |
| Zeke | what effect? | 15:29 |
| MrCosmicNachos | I think I got a spec ks handshake | 15:31 |
| MrCosmicNachos | Fire horns | 15:38 |
| Zeke | yooo and thats hot rod right? | 15:48 |
| MrCosmicNachos | Yeah | 15:51 |
| MrCosmicNachos | Worked better with my old hat, had a DBD Salty Dog | 16:01 |
| Zeke | thats actually insanely valuable one bro | 16:02 |
| Zeke | most expensive thing i got for now is my sandvich | 16:24 |
| MrCosmicNachos | oooh | 16:49 |
| Zeke | considering selling it tbh but it is also super cool | 16:57 |
| Zeke | i traded for it lmao | 17:12 |
| MrCosmicNachos | They go for like $200, right? | 17:22 |
| MrCosmicNachos | How much you get it for? | 17:34 |
| Zeke | lol i got that one for like 175 keys, theyre almost 200 keys rn | 17:38 |
| MrCosmicNachos | Damn | 17:47 |
| MrCosmicNachos | Nice | 17:50 |
| Zeke | ngl i do gotta admit the energy effects are amazing | 18:20 |
| MrCosmicNachos | Green Energy is my favorite effect | 18:36 |
| Zeke | i almost went for a pink energy sinners shade | 18:39 |
| MrCosmicNachos | I had one of those years back | 18:47 |
| Zeke | saw this one for 115 keys, its strange tho | 19:02 |
| MrCosmicNachos | I think mine was 130K | 19:17 |
| MrCosmicNachos | Not strange tho | 19:28 |
| Zeke | lol i think with the parts on mine itd be worth 150 | 19:31 |
| Zeke | has fires survived, kills, and assists | 19:40 |
| MrCosmicNachos | Oh is yours strange too? | 19:41 |
| Zeke | yeah lol | 19:54 |
| MrCosmicNachos | Ngl, I kinda want the Sandvich prop | 20:35 |
| Zeke | all i gotta say is heavy unusuals are amazing but also way cheaper | 20:36 |
| MrCosmicNachos | They are | 20:41 |
| Zeke | lmao same honestly, id love an irl robo-sandvich | 20:54 |
| MrCosmicNachos | My GF really wants the Medic figurine, so I've been trying to find a seller | 21:29 |
| MrCosmicNachos | I had one lined up, then he got drafted cuz he was a russian | 21:43 |
| Zeke | lmao how you feel about the tomislav and its whole deal | 21:48 |
| Zeke | yknow, people thinking that its the best minigun | 22:02 |
| MrCosmicNachos | I hated it coming into comp | 22:08 |
| MrCosmicNachos | I understand its benefits, but I still prefer stock | 22:34 |
| Zeke | lmao honestly having a team that actually understands tomislavs strengths is great | 22:53 |
| MrCosmicNachos | Speed was really pushing me to use it, but I didn't want to lol | 23:17 |
| Zeke | lol the issue imo is people dont understand heavy outside of the surface level stuff | 23:44 |
| MrCosmicNachos | Heavy is 85 percent positioning, 10 percent aim, 5 percent yelling for heals | 24:08 |
| MrCosmicNachos | And slinging sandviches lol | 24:22 |
| MrCosmicNachos | Wait | 24:57 |
| MrCosmicNachos | Does comp not have teammate shove? | 25:04 |
| Zeke | id say more like 40% positioning, 40% turning around 10% aim, 5% trying to keep the medic safe, and 5% of the time wondering | 25:19 |
| Zeke | where tf your team is | 25:25 |
| Zeke | and also hiding from the sniper | 25:34 |
| MrCosmicNachos | If you have a good main caller, that takes care of knowing who's where | 25:42 |
| MrCosmicNachos | And Pyro's job is to babysit med | 25:59 |
| MrCosmicNachos | So 5 percent seems irgh | 26:05 |
| MrCosmicNachos | right | 26:08 |
| Zeke | i mean, between sandviches and bodyblocking | 26:22 |
| Zeke | along with trying to stop bombs | 26:31 |
| MrCosmicNachos | Stopping bombs is kind of under the killing shit category | 26:44 |
| Zeke | which btw another solid use for natascha, stopping bombs/ rushes at the med | 26:55 |
| Zeke | makes it even easier | 27:00 |
| MrCosmicNachos | Crazy that the slowdown works mid air | 27:15 |
| Zeke | lol honestly if they removed the slowdown id still use the natascha | 27:35 |
| MrCosmicNachos | Isn't that its whole thing? | 27:46 |
| Zeke | the dmg resistance is what i love | 27:50 |
| MrCosmicNachos | BB has it too | 27:55 |
| Zeke | but you can be more mobile with natascha | 28:05 |
| MrCosmicNachos | True | 28:09 |
| Zeke | its good for where you need the max dmg resistance but cant have the whole bs of it being too hard to escape | 28:38 |
| Zeke | which i mean, you can run BB offensively | 29:01 |
| Zeke | just if the enemy team knows to get you by suprise then its a wrap | 29:23 |
| Zeke | lol rn i have a loadout for stock, tomi, BB, and natasha | 30:11 |
| Zeke | and swapping to HLH wouldnt be hard | 30:27 |
| Zeke | but having those 4 on loadout binds is insane for how fast it can be if your teams already pushing/ getting pushed | 30:56 |
| MrCosmicNachos | Sorry, was messing with device manager lol | 32:56 |
| Zeke | lol fun | 33:03 |
| MrCosmicNachos | Loadout binds clutch up | 33:06 |
| Zeke | fr | 33:12 |
| MrCosmicNachos | I've saved myself so many times on Upward holding pub spot | 33:16 |
| Zeke | i got mine on f1-f4 | 33:22 |
| MrCosmicNachos | Your glasses clip | 33:30 |
| MrCosmicNachos | this is so sad | 33:33 |
| Zeke | just a small bit | 33:36 |
| MrCosmicNachos | It's fine, my hair does too | 33:45 |
| Zeke | and tbh it looks super good even with that tiny amount of clipping that its worth it | 34:06 |
| MrCosmicNachos | It does | 34:10 |
| Zeke | also the hat hides it some lol | 34:11 |
| MrCosmicNachos | Sinner's is cracked, and Commissar's Coat is the best jacket | 34:32 |
| MrCosmicNachos | I feel like all the beards work on heavy thoug | 34:47 |
| Zeke | honestly heavy has a decent amount of miscs, but theres only like 4 great ones | 34:55 |
| Zeke | commisars coat, heavy tourism, combat slacks, and either siberian tigerstripe, combat casual, or heavy lifter | 35:46 |
| MrCosmicNachos | I used Siberian Tigerstripe for a while | 36:02 |
| MrCosmicNachos | Hang on | 36:07 |
| Zeke | i have a friend who uses it with the warhood and war goggles | 36:45 |
| Zeke | he has a smoking warhood so it just looks super menacing | 37:05 |
| MrCosmicNachos | Nice | 37:10 |
| MrCosmicNachos | My gf actually did a commission for my old loadout as a PFP | 37:36 |
| Zeke | lol i mean, look at my pfp right now | 37:51 |
| Zeke | i got that done pretty recently | 38:02 |
| MrCosmicNachos | I'm getting a new one to match my new hat, plus the taunt | 38:17 |
| Zeke | by recently i mean like 4 months or so ago | 38:18 |
| MrCosmicNachos | Like this effect is so cool | 38:24 |
| Zeke | i went for the old 'i want you to join the us army' recruiting poster | 38:37 |
| Zeke | fr tho those kinda effects are so good | 38:46 |
| MrCosmicNachos | I wanted a more minimalist portrait | 38:56 |
| Zeke | but im biased towards what i got for this | 38:58 |
| MrCosmicNachos | Hang on, dunno if it'll update | 39:02 |
| Zeke | best thing is this taunt was only like 4 keys | 39:19 |
| Zeke | same with my russian rubdown which also has screaming tiger | 39:36 |
| MrCosmicNachos | Dunno if it's updated on your end | 40:03 |
| Zeke | yeah it did, one sec | 40:12 |
| Zeke | yooo that shits great bro | 40:25 |
| MrCosmicNachos | You ever seen the minimalist character icons in Overwatch? | 40:39 |
| MrCosmicNachos | I wanted something in that style, but with a bit more effects | 40:49 |
| Zeke | lol no, i have never played overwatch tbh | 40:55 |
| MrCosmicNachos | That's fair | 40:59 |
| MrCosmicNachos | But that's the reference | 41:07 |
| MrCosmicNachos | Or the base at least | 41:11 |
| Zeke | lol its just really solid overall bro | 41:18 |
| Zeke | i like it | 41:21 |
| MrCosmicNachos | I'll pass the compliment on to her lol | 41:28 |
| MrCosmicNachos | Gonna get a new one for my new fit | 41:43 |
| Zeke | lol pls do, gotta give credit lol | 41:46 |
| highspeed | The • | !extend | 42:13 |
| Zeke | lmao i do gotta say going for a theme with heavys cosmetics turns out way better than doing it for other classes | 42:17 |
| Zeke | like for me i went for the 'team anchor' look lmao | 42:28 |
| Zeke | lol also bit of a side note, if you want a fancy weapon for cheap, spelled strange HLH's are really cheap rn i think | 43:21 |
| MrCosmicNachos | Really? | 43:41 |
| MrCosmicNachos | Interesting, I'll look into that | 43:50 |
| Zeke | 15 keys for one with a basic killstreak and parts rn on backpack | 43:53 |
| Zeke | its just robot scouts destroyed but still | 44:07 |
| Zeke | fancy but subtle lol | 44:13 |
| Zeke | i love that i cant hit donks when i try to on purpose | 45:13 |
| Zeke | but normally fighting i get them all the time | 45:26 |
| MrCosmicNachos | I play more demoknight than normal demo | 45:29 |
| Zeke | i play hybridknight the most when it comes to demo | 45:44 |
| MrCosmicNachos | Can't hit pipes for shit, but I have clip after clip of dropping meds while trimping | 45:52 |
| Zeke | my main loadout is loose cannon, tide turner, and claidheamh mor | 46:05 |
| MrCosmicNachos | Did you know you can make this jump on D? | 46:46 |
| Zeke | one sec, which one | 46:54 |
| MrCosmicNachos | ‽ | 47:01 |
| Zeke | lol what | 47:05 |
| MrCosmicNachos | Testing something | 47:10 |
| Zeke | lol | 47:15 |
| Zeke | The main jump i do over here is by the dropdown | 47:36 |
| MrCosmicNachos | On B? | 47:44 |
| Zeke | nope, on D | 47:50 |
| MrCosmicNachos | Yeah, that one | 48:04 |
| Zeke | its not super technical but great to get ppl off guard | 48:19 |
| MrCosmicNachos | Playing up in 'Puters gives an easy way to rotate between lobby and D | 48:23 |
| Zeke | lol bro | 49:21 |
| MrCosmicNachos | Ooh | 49:58 |
| MrCosmicNachos | Fancy | 50:01 |
| Zeke | lol yeah, only downside is it isnt strange | 50:10 |
| Zeke | but tbh thats fine with me bc it is cool as hell | 50:23 |
| MrCosmicNachos | Merc grade, so no stat clock | 50:28 |
| Zeke | lol what | 50:41 |
| MrCosmicNachos | Civ grade war paints can be made strange with a Civ Grade Stat Clock | 50:58 |
| Zeke | can i get a stat clock to put on this or am i just reading that wrong | 51:03 |
| Zeke | lol ik about civilian grade | 51:10 |
| MrCosmicNachos | Yours is merc grade, there isn't a merc grade stat clock | 51:20 |
| Zeke | used to do that with civic duty before secretly serviced came out | 51:27 |
| Zeke | lol also yknow that jump you showed me? | 52:32 |
| MrCosmicNachos | Yeah | 52:36 |
| Zeke | you can shoot thru those railings | 52:41 |
| MrCosmicNachos | Yeah I know | 52:46 |
| Zeke | head gltich tf outta it | 52:50 |
| MrCosmicNachos | None of the railings on this map have bullet brushes on them | 53:03 |
| MrCosmicNachos | I think the ones on E can too | 53:11 |
| Zeke | still that spot there is goated bc you can do head glitch there | 53:23 |
| MrCosmicNachos | yeah | 53:25 |
| MrCosmicNachos | Pushing from Lobby, yeah | 53:37 |
| Zeke | or defending from offense coming through lobby | 53:55 |
| MrCosmicNachos | I guess if you're holding E after D has been capped, this'd be good | 53:56 |
| MrCosmicNachos | If you're defending Lobby, it's better to be on Puters | 54:11 |
| Zeke | or holding D if they focus on lobby rather than going through C | 54:22 |
| MrCosmicNachos | Death hall is almost always called ahead of time | 54:38 |
| Zeke | honestly ig it depends on how aggresive you are | 54:42 |
| Zeke | i think computers is an easy death trap | 54:52 |
| MrCosmicNachos | Not really, you can get out either side, and if you're surrounded you were gonna die anyway | 55:14 |
| Zeke | its why i prefer being around D or in the lobby, because it either gives me an escape route to E or to rotate between the 2 | 55:51 |
| Zeke | or in lobby to commit to it | 55:58 |
| Zeke | and if youre over in here then you can get to the big health and ammo packs easier | 56:26 |
| MrCosmicNachos | That's true | 56:35 |
| Zeke | also this wall right here by healthpack you can do it so you can hide behind it and shoot beside it | 57:00 |
| Zeke | hell if you arent able to worry about escaping right here is solid too if the enemy likes pushing through A | 57:48 |
| Zeke | best thing ive found to do is just wander around maps empty and try to think about how a fight would go and make sense | 58:38 |
| Zeke | for you to go or postion | 58:47 |
| Zeke | and then also use demos of other matches to compare against what you came up with for an idea, and see if you cooked or nah | 59:25 |
| MrCosmicNachos | We have Witness to review demos with | 59:41 |
| MrCosmicNachos | We got the setup | 59:47 |
| Zeke | lol i also mean just peoples comp gameplay on youtube | 01:00:02 |
| MrCosmicNachos | Anyway, I'm gonna head out for the night | 01:00:59 |
| Zeke | like yeah demo reviews are great, but i doubt they focus on your heavy gameplay much | 01:00:59 |
| MrCosmicNachos | Mostly to shit on my positioning if I make a mistake lmao | 01:01:14 |
| Zeke | thats why you just go and look at maps to see where the sightines and whatnot are | 01:01:39 |
| MrCosmicNachos | I do that by pubbing them lol | 01:01:49 |
| Zeke | and use that knowledge to find where to position | 01:01:51 |
| Zeke | i do pubbing too, but also you can just pull up single player maps through console | 01:02:09 |
| Zeke | its just map (insert map name) | 01:02:17 |
| MrCosmicNachos | Yeah, checking them out is always good | 01:03:06 |
| Zeke | then again before i even started comp i played a TON of heavy beforehand | 01:03:15 |
| Zeke | this is my first season doing comp lmao | 01:03:22 |
| MrCosmicNachos | Same | 01:03:22 |
| MrCosmicNachos | Second for me, but I have about 2500 hours across 2 accounts | 01:03:40 |
| MrCosmicNachos | So I have a bit of time in the game lol | 01:03:46 |
| Zeke | i have about 3500 total | 01:03:55 |
| MrCosmicNachos | Alright, I gotta go to bed | 01:04:15 |
| MrCosmicNachos | Running DnD tomorrow | 01:04:19 |
| Zeke | gn bro, gg dude | 01:04:22 |
| Zeke | you too demo lol | 01:04:27 |
| MrCosmicNachos | Plus I'm going out too | 01:04:28 |
| MrCosmicNachos | Gn | 01:04:36 |
| MrCosmicNachos | Until the next one | 01:04:42 |
| Zeke | best of luck to yall and hope to run into yall again | 01:04:45 |
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