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match-20210209-2301-pl_badwater.dem

Demo uploaded by serveme.tf 3 years go

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Name	K	A	D	D	K	Name
DJTHED	0	0	0	0	0	Aqua Grass
				2	2	AppleTank
				0	0	Smug n' clean rubber Yeen

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Aqua Grass	No, it's just comp being comp	0:00
Aqua Grass	So we'll wait for a second.	00:04
Smug n' clean rubber Yeen	CHOO CHOO	00:08
Aqua Grass	Perfect	00:12
Aqua Grass	Heal me	00:15
Aqua Grass	Around 24%	00:27
AppleTank	wait, isn't set up fast?	00:30
Aqua Grass	Yep	00:33
Smug n' clean rubber Yeen	yep	00:33
AppleTank	faster build rate	00:35
Smug n' clean rubber Yeen	setup fastheal	00:36
AppleTank	would that still work?	00:47
AppleTank	or wait after round start for normal %	00:58
AppleTank	eady	01:31
AppleTank	ready	01:34
Smug n' clean rubber Yeen	its heel time	01:39
AppleTank	aqua?	01:59
DJTHED	Probably just speaking with their professor	02:22
DJTHED	They were in the middle of some college work I think	02:31
DJTHED	Hmmm well, to be clear on what we're testing I want to be sure when you get back	03:25
DJTHED	Mainly interested in seeing the exact build rates for healing a target who is wounded with no crit heals, then with crit heals	04:00
AppleTank	yea	04:05
DJTHED	and then will want to see like how overheal in general effects build rates	04:17
AppleTank	overheal should be as listed elsewhere	04:41
DJTHED	I'm not too sure if crit heals while overhealing will effect it or not, those kinds of minor details I'm not too aware of atm	04:42
Aqua Grass	Okay. I am backl	05:27
DJTHED	Wew	05:30
Aqua Grass	So sorry about that	05:31
Smug n' clean rubber Yeen	wb	05:48
AppleTank	6%	05:52
Aqua Grass	6%	05:53
Aqua Grass	Okay.. i'm going to hurt myself again	06:00
Aqua Grass	give me 15 seconds and then try that again.	06:08
Aqua Grass	At 3:40 on the clock	06:22
AppleTank	i seemed to have healed you too fast there	06:24
AppleTank	i think you should have DJ shoot you	06:44
Smug n' clean rubber Yeen	14% now hmm	06:44
DJTHED	Testing method seems inprecise	06:48
Smug n' clean rubber Yeen	yeah you should use scripts	06:56
Smug n' clean rubber Yeen	lol	06:57
Aqua Grass	lol. Right now i'm doing 'hurtme 175' in console	07:14
AppleTank	you should haev DJ shoot you	07:24
Aqua Grass	So it should take it away... i'm not entirely sure.	07:25
Smug n' clean rubber Yeen	or just take fall dmg	07:34
AppleTank	since it doesn't seem to disable crit heal	07:37
Aqua Grass	Actually.. your right with DJ shooting	07:38
Smug n' clean rubber Yeen	yeah hurtme doesn't count as real dmg	07:47
Aqua Grass	Yeah. Shoot me as much as you want DJ	07:51
AppleTank	28%	07:56
Aqua Grass	I wont die	07:56
DJTHED	Ah, buddha	08:02
AppleTank	28 to 45	08:17
Smug n' clean rubber Yeen	17%	08:20
Aqua Grass	Hit me again, wait 15 seconds.	08:24
Smug n' clean rubber Yeen	or somethin	08:24
Aqua Grass	At 1:25 heal me	08:38
Smug n' clean rubber Yeen	only 6%	08:53
AppleTank	45 to 52	08:55
Aqua Grass	Huh.	08:56
DJTHED	Thinking Emoji	09:09
Aqua Grass	Try to do both of them at 0%	09:17
AppleTank	8	10:11
Aqua Grass	9%	10:11
Smug n' clean rubber Yeen	from what HP to what HP?	10:20
Aqua Grass	Reset... lets do the 15 second wait	10:21
AppleTank	so yea, looks like no % boost	10:22
Aqua Grass	From 1 to 185	10:24
Smug n' clean rubber Yeen	alright	10:29
Aqua Grass	At 3:24 heal me	10:38
Smug n' clean rubber Yeen	16	10:55
AppleTank	same amount	11:02
Aqua Grass	Yeah. So basically same amount	11:05
Smug n' clean rubber Yeen	sooo 8% again	11:07
AppleTank	pretty much	11:12
Aqua Grass	Yep.	11:19
DJTHED	So same amount of uber gained, just faster with crit heals, as you said	11:24
Aqua Grass	Yep.	11:30
Smug n' clean rubber Yeen	makes sense, well I guess that's solved? anything else?	11:43
AppleTank	pretty sure that means that crit heals means technically slower build, and you cannot exceed 40 sec build time	11:43
Aqua Grass	Granted there is this weird thing at around 40-90% where the bar charges slower or something.	11:45
DJTHED	Oh really?	12:00
Aqua Grass	You can... I have demos that prove that.	12:01
DJTHED	Not familiar with that	12:03
AppleTank	..... uber rate changes based on % fill????	12:15
Aqua Grass	Well, i'm not sure on the 40-90% thing, but thats the only thing that could have changed the outcome of the first try	12:26
Smug n' clean rubber Yeen	dunno if it's a visual thing though or an actual calculation change	12:31
Aqua Grass	dont know that either	12:43
Smug n' clean rubber Yeen	boston basher build timer time?	12:58
AppleTank	i could heal to 50%?	12:58
Aqua Grass	Boston basher heal time? I gotcha	13:08
AppleTank	so what are we testing now?	14:26
Aqua Grass	Not entirely sure. What do yall want to test?	14:46
Smug n' clean rubber Yeen	how quickly you can build uber under best circumstances, or the uber percent gauge vs time taken to get to X %	15:00
AppleTank	we can see if 60% uber builds slower?	15:01
AppleTank	smug, that pretty much just means you need to be below 140% hp	15:16
AppleTank	so explosion dmg self, basher hit selff constantly	15:33
Aqua Grass	having crit heals and then going into BB should create a uber under 40 seconds.	15:37
AppleTank	fastest is uspposed to be 40	15:42
Aqua Grass	:) Lets find out.	15:49
Aqua Grass	One of yall reset uber	15:55
Aqua Grass	Go for it	16:25
AppleTank	2:55 I think	16:39
Smug n' clean rubber Yeen	its going pretty fast	16:57
Smug n' clean rubber Yeen	I mean	17:02
Smug n' clean rubber Yeen	40s	17:12
Smug n' clean rubber Yeen	exactly	17:14
AppleTank	~2:17	17:17
Aqua Grass	Around 2 seconds earlier	17:23
Aqua Grass	There isnt much more that you can do than that	17:29
AppleTank	might be timing error, but its basically about 40	17:38
Smug n' clean rubber Yeen	it looks like it went faster between 50-65% but probs visual	17:46
DJTHED	I am locally recording this if I wanted to refer back to double check timings	17:54
AppleTank	try again at 1:20?	17:56
Aqua Grass	Okay.	17:57
DJTHED	Started off with crit heals there	18:18
Aqua Grass	and missed 2 swings	18:27
AppleTank	shouldn't matter too much since below 140%	18:29
Aqua Grass	Buhhda?!?	18:45
AppleTank	.....uh	18:45
Smug n' clean rubber Yeen	bruyh	18:45
Smug n' clean rubber Yeen	did you die for real, he died for real	18:53
Smug n' clean rubber Yeen	oof	18:54
Aqua Grass	Bruh moment	18:55
AppleTank	whups	19:01
Smug n' clean rubber Yeen	an attempt was made	19:04
DJTHED	I remember buddha being a little finnicky on what kind of stuff it works for	19:14
Aqua Grass	we have 2nd round... we can still test	19:16
Aqua Grass	Buddha was working fine before. Bit strange it just died out there.	19:31
Smug n' clean rubber Yeen	lol	20:16
DJTHED	Alright, so what next if anything?	21:22
AppleTank	start at 00	21:31
Smug n' clean rubber Yeen	40s	22:30
Aqua Grass	Right at 40	22:32
AppleTank	yup, 40	22:34
Aqua Grass	I guess you're right. Huh.	22:37
Aqua Grass	That's interesting.	22:44
AppleTank	/shrug	22:45
Smug n' clean rubber Yeen	I guess crit heals on multiple players	22:57
Smug n' clean rubber Yeen	can reduce that further	23:01
Smug n' clean rubber Yeen	time wise?	23:06
AppleTank	not really	23:08
Aqua Grass	That would be my guess, yeah... but i'm not entirely sure.	23:16
AppleTank	you get only 6 uber for crit heal	23:21
Aqua Grass	That was on a scout though.	23:31
DJTHED	Would you be able to spawn a bunch of dummy bots and set them all to 1 hp?	23:41
Aqua Grass	I could, yeah.	23:48
Smug n' clean rubber Yeen	do it do it	23:51
Aqua Grass	Let me find the command quickly. It's been a while.	23:59
Smug n' clean rubber Yeen	bot_add and	24:08
Smug n' clean rubber Yeen	tf_bot_teleport thing	24:15
Aqua Grass	!rcon tf_bot_add 6	24:29
DJTHED	Oh these are tf_bots	24:48
Smug n' clean rubber Yeen	don't forget to disable their ai	24:51
AppleTank	oh no	24:53
DJTHED	These aren't passive	24:53
Aqua Grass	Oh no	24:59
Smug n' clean rubber Yeen	you gotta use bot_add	25:00
Smug n' clean rubber Yeen	lmao	25:02
Smug n' clean rubber Yeen	not tf_bot	25:06
Aqua Grass	My B	25:06
Aqua Grass	!rcon tf_bot remove 6	25:13
Smug n' clean rubber Yeen	tf	25:13
DJTHED	tf_bot_kick all I think	25:36
Smug n' clean rubber Yeen	yep	25:40
Aqua Grass	!rcon tf_bot_kick all	25:41
Aqua Grass	Yep.	25:43
Aqua Grass	My B once more.	25:48
Aqua Grass	Never done a lot of commands	25:53
Aqua Grass	!rcon bot_add 6	25:57
Aqua Grass	Bot_add does nothing.	26:13
Smug n' clean rubber Yeen	weird..	26:19
DJTHED	just type bot into console	26:21
DJTHED	it'll spawn on	26:24
DJTHED	one	26:25
DJTHED	and just do it multiple times I suppose	26:32
Smug n' clean rubber Yeen	oh derp, yeah	26:32
Aqua Grass	!rcon bot	26:33
Aqua Grass	!rcon bot	26:38
Aqua Grass	I have to use rcon because these are rented servers.	26:48
AppleTank	from earlier testing, full heal no crit got us 17%, which is roughly 2.9x more than crit heal	26:54
Aqua Grass	!rcon bot 6	26:58
Aqua Grass	!rcon bot	27:11
Aqua Grass	!rcon bot	27:13
AppleTank	which is, estimated 3x slower than crit heal	27:17
AppleTank	so, 3x more uber %	27:30
Aqua Grass	Although I have a feeling that was off	27:48
Smug n' clean rubber Yeen	bots where	28:11
DJTHED	They just sit in spawn	28:18
Aqua Grass	Ye. They're just in spawn	28:27
AppleTank	?	28:44
Aqua Grass	Now how to bring them down to 1 hp... I have no clue.	28:48
Smug n' clean rubber Yeen	hurt em	28:56
Aqua Grass	:eyes:	29:03
AppleTank	medic bot has self heal	29:04
Aqua Grass	!rcon bot_remove	29:13
DJTHED	I'd say just keep spawning bots	29:14
Aqua Grass	!rcon bot	29:18
AppleTank	also we're running out of time	29:19
Aqua Grass	!rcon bot	29:20
DJTHED	and do bot_kick (botname) if one spawns as a medic	29:22
Aqua Grass	!rcon bot	29:23
Smug n' clean rubber Yeen	can you rcon to disable the map timer	29:52
Aqua Grass	!rcon bot_kick bot 3	29:54
Smug n' clean rubber Yeen	lol	29:55
Aqua Grass	I do not know that command...	30:00
DJTHED	I dont remember what that command is	30:01
DJTHED	lol	30:04
Smug n' clean rubber Yeen	mp_timelimit 0 ??	30:08
Aqua Grass	!rcon bot_kick bot03	30:11
Aqua Grass	!rcon mp_timelimit 0	30:17
DJTHED	Isnt that just the map switch timer?	30:17
Smug n' clean rubber Yeen	oh god so many timers	30:25
Aqua Grass	!rcon bot	30:29
Aqua Grass	!rcon bot	30:31
Aqua Grass	!rcon bot	30:35
Aqua Grass	!rcon bot_remove bot10	30:42
Aqua Grass	!rcon bot_kick bot10	30:55
Aqua Grass	!rcon bot	31:02
Aqua Grass	!rcon bot	31:05
Aqua Grass	So we've got some.	31:15
DJTHED	Bringing them to forward spawn	31:16
Smug n' clean rubber Yeen	!rcon mp_friendly_fire 1	31:22
Aqua Grass	!rcon mp_friendly_fire 1	31:33
Aqua Grass	Not a command	31:37
AppleTank	uh	31:57
Smug n' clean rubber Yeen	er	31:59
DJTHED	Think you just healed them up	32:03
Smug n' clean rubber Yeen	mp_friendly_fire	32:05
Smug n' clean rubber Yeen	LOL	32:08
Smug n' clean rubber Yeen	shit	32:10
Aqua Grass	!rcon mp_friendly_fire	32:15
Aqua Grass	That is not a command... <,<	32:21
Smug n' clean rubber Yeen	nooo	32:32
Smug n' clean rubber Yeen	its	32:34
Smug n' clean rubber Yeen	lmao	32:35
DJTHED	mp_friendlyfire	32:37
Smug n' clean rubber Yeen	just one _	32:38
AppleTank	heal them all?	32:38
Smug n' clean rubber Yeen	yes	32:39
Aqua Grass	!rcon mp_friendly fire	33:01
AppleTank	?	33:01
DJTHED	'mp_friendlyfire 1'	33:06
Smug n' clean rubber Yeen	the bots are mostly at 5hp so cool	33:08
Aqua Grass	!rcon mp_friendlyfire 1	33:09
Aqua Grass	there we go	33:12
Aqua Grass	I'm dumb	33:14
Smug n' clean rubber Yeen	there lol	33:15
AppleTank	so, should I try healing them all?	33:32
Smug n' clean rubber Yeen	yeep	33:35
Smug n' clean rubber Yeen	until they reach max h	33:39
Smug n' clean rubber Yeen	hp	33:41
Smug n' clean rubber Yeen	5:09 you started	33:48
DJTHED	Okay, I can look back at the recording to see the exact rate	33:58
AppleTank	35%	34:02
Aqua Grass	Okay.	34:09
Smug n' clean rubber Yeen	35% in 15ish?	34:17
AppleTank	i completely lost track of time	34:19
Smug n' clean rubber Yeen	so that didn't work lol	34:22
Aqua Grass	He has the recording of this	34:28
AppleTank	so we done?	34:41
DJTHED	I think so	34:48
DJTHED	Unless there was something else someone wanted to try	35:00
Aqua Grass	I'm all G	35:06
Smug n' clean rubber Yeen	any other random stuff	35:07
AppleTank	i'm good	35:10
Aqua Grass	But if yall need a server, hit me up. I'll pop open another one if yall need it.	35:16
Smug n' clean rubber Yeen	I guess DJ can just check the code	35:22
Smug n' clean rubber Yeen	for random weapon calcs	35:26
Aqua Grass	The programmer shall know all	35:36
DJTHED	I'm mostly doing re-world testing honestly	35:37
AppleTank	DJ, if you can record and post the vid somewhere, we can toss it at Comp medics' faces I guess	35:38
Smug n' clean rubber Yeen	for healing and the stupid heal-rate penalty	35:42
Aqua Grass	:eyes: how dare	35:50
AppleTank	:P	35:55
DJTHED	But yeah I'll keep this in mind if we need to test something with other players	36:11
AppleTank	gotta go soon, so if that's all?	36:21
AppleTank	good?	36:41
Aqua Grass	Ye. I think so	36:53
AppleTank	aye, good night	36:58
Smug n' clean rubber Yeen	bye lol	37:03
Aqua Grass	Alright. I try to be around.	37:05
Aqua Grass	Bai	37:06